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Well, I can play any time I want now (well, once it's official anyway). So there! :P ;P

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Blackwing, welcome back! You're right, of course. Although, technically, the book is Borders of Infinity. :D

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Ack, of course! I have that as an e-book so I didn't think... Anyway, a new quote:
"Do you think he has gone mad?"
The book?
Who's talking?
To whom?
And who are they talking about?
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Here's a bit longer quote:
X voice went hushed. "Do you think he has gone mad?"

"Yes." Y added reluctantly. "But he's not lying. Not about this."
The book?
Who's X?
Who's Y?
And who are they talking about?

Bonus: what isn't he lying about?
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I really do not know, but let us do some analytical reasoning.
With the original short quote there were too many places where to look for.
A lot of character do behave "strangely", not just Miles, also Metzov, Galen, Cazaril,... I tried a dozen places in the Saga, and two more in Chalion. The idae was the same, the wording different. Not finding it did not mean much, there were too many possibilities I could have forgotten.
The longer quote reduced the possibilities. Therefore I was able to convince myself it is neither in the Saga nor in the two first books of Chalion which I own. Since we agreed not to quote TSK yet, that leaves... Hallowed Hunt. The book I remember least...

Assuming it is really _HH_ the madman is probably Lord Wencel, towards the end of the book when he finally realizes he cannot fulfill his life's aim. Ingrey is certainly here, and I guess he is Y, not X. Thus X must be someone on his side. Lady Ijada?

As for what he did not lie about:
Spoiler: show
that it was not just "ordinary" political ambition that pushed him all along but the need to fight against a curse, that only becoming Hallow King, whatever the cost to "innocnet bystanders", could he ever get rid of it. This being the "big surprise" of the book I put it as a spoiler. I don't remember the details so clearly, just the general idea.
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You're almost right but one of the characters is the wrong one.
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It's nice to know that I wasn't just missing the quote in the books I skimmed (well, kinda). I really need to re-read the last two Chalion books. I don't even really remember that part. Fortunately, tomorrow's our day to go to the library. I just hope it's in. ;)

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Blackwing wrote:You're almost right but one of the characters is the wrong one.
Well, I don't have the book and I don't really remember that passage, I just reconstructed it by reasoning. Most probably the wrong one is Lady Ijada, I just put the first "ally" of Ingrey that jumped to my mind. So let me try again.
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Nope.
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Well; I would have to try each character oen after one, my next attmept could have been Learned Lewko. But risi had mercy on me and told me it was indeed a woman. So Princess Fara?
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Yes, that's correct. You're up!
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That was a tough one, without the book...

Here goes:
I may be small, but I screw up big because I'm standing on the shoulders of GIANTS.
Italics means it is a thought.

Asking "Who" is practically redundant but

- book?
- ignoring unnamed characters, who are the named characters that the
thinker meets last before this quote and first after it?

Bonus:
- what detail of clothing relates this quote with one rather recent one?
- this particular screw-up was indeed in good part due to a "giant". Who?
Hmmmm.... this is ambiguous.
More clearly:
- this particular screw-up was indeed in good part due to two "giants". One who started the whole thing, one whose recent bad judgment caused the latest disaster. Name both.
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voralfred wrote:That was a tough one, without the book...

Here goes:
I may be small, but I screw up big because I'm standing on the shoulders of GIANTS.
Italics means it is a thought.

Asking "Who" is practically redundant but

- book?
- ignoring unnamed characters, who are the named characters that the
thinker meets last before this quote and first after it?

Bonus:
- what detail of clothing relates this quote with one rather recent one?
- this particular screw-up was indeed in good part due to a "giant". Who?
Hmmmm.... this is ambiguous.
More clearly:
- this particular screw-up was indeed in good part due to two "giants". One who started the whole thing, one whose recent bad judgment caused the latest disaster. Name both.
Book- The Vor Game (in my Young Miles omnibus)
The character Miles (obviously) meets before this is Cavilo, and the one after (ignoring the inner-system ship crew) was Bel Thorne.

This is one of the other "slipper incidents" (he was thrown in a bod pod wearing brown felt slippers to get him to the Ariel).
This particular screw up is related in part to Gregor's failed suicide attempt on Komarr, resulting in his run away attempt. The screw-up was that he lost Gregor again, due in part to Gregor convincing Cavilo that she could be empress of Barrayar, and in part to Cavilo sending him out in the bod pod alone (without Gregor).

I love the way he keeps thinking It's a surprise. :)

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PS Did I mention I re-read a whole bunch of things trying to figure out the last one? ;)
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The next quote and at least one sherlock, no doubt.
As for the bonus, 2/3 OK but the last third: Gregor "contant fleurette" to Cavilo is part of the solution, not part of the problem. My question was: what other GIANT has caused this new catastrophic development, namely Miles and Gregor in Cavilo's hands, by his bad judgment ("efficient" actions of enemies do not count in a screw-up, only bad decisions from allies count, so Metzov is not the answer, whatever role he has actually taken, it is not part of a screw-up)?
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In that case, you should be referring to Tung, who arranged for Gregor and Miles to be put on the smuggler's ship (not knowing that the smuggler had been caught) that led them to be in Cavilo's hands.

As to the next quote:
"I think that very darkness is where the greatness grows from, as flowers from the soil."
Who said it?
And which book?

I hope it's sufficiently interesting. :)

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SPetty wrote:In that case, you should be referring to Tung,
Yes! That completes the bonus ;)
Sine noone had got a sherlock since I awarded you one, I just edited my post there instead of posting a new one, but you now got one and a half.
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"I think that very darkness is where the greatness grows from, as flowers from the soil."
Who said it?
And which book?


This is Ista in the Paladin of Souls. I had thought it was but I couldn't remember exactly which conversation it took place in. I was tempted to answer anyway, since you didn't ask who she was talking to but I waited until I could verify it. It is when she is offering the master of horse position the the newly recovered Goram.

Yes, sufficiently interesting! I actually first looked in one of the Saga books, so anytime I am not immediately sure of which universe it is, I think it's interesting!
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A sherlock to you risi! I thought about adding a few more questions, but I'm not sure what the point to question ratio is yet, so I figured who and where was a good balance. :)


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That was indeed a good one! I first thought of Cordelia, talking about Mark for instance, or to Mark aout Aral, then of Ekaterin, the flower passionate. Then I thought of Ista, but I looked where she discussed dy Lutez with Lord Arthys. With Goram, eh!
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Suzette, I don't think there is a point to question ratio - it's just whatever the poster feels like. BTW, how did you like Paladin? The first time I read it I couldn't put it down, not even to go to bed!

Alfred, I first looked at the conversation in the attic, thinking if Miles had said it to Ekaterin, that had to be when/where. Then I looked at the last conversation between Caz and Ista in Chalion. Then the Aryhs conversation you mentioned... so it wasn't easy.!

Ok, so here's the next quote:
Things might get tight, following XXX, but you know they won't get stupid.
Who said it?
To whom?
Under what circumstances?
And who is XXX?
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Trick question eh?
Of course it was a Dendarii describing their Admiral.... but after a few unsuccesful searches about Admiral Naismith being so described by Quinn, or maybe Elena B-J, it finally downed on me!

XXX is Admiral...Quinn
And Taura is speaking to Roic.
In "Winterfair Gifts"
Circumstances? That was long before the big problem arose. They were just cooling down after having jogged together.
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Right on all counts. Somehow, I didn't really think I'd catch you!

Your quote, your Sherlock.
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Well, you can easily catch me with a quote on "Hallowed Hunt", I only read it once and I don't own it!
xxx paced back and forth like a frenzied YYY. "I'm being stampeded. I know I am. I can feel it. ZZZ is reaching out for me through WWW. And ZZZ's a man with no inhibitions about applying leverage. (...) Gods. Don't panic, XXX."

xxx is a pronoun, and XXX does self-address as XXX, speaker and self-adressed. I had to remove a bit of the quote or it would have been too easy.

Book?
XXX?
ZZZ?
WWW? If you don't remember the name, any unambiguous characterisation will be OK.


Bonus: YYY is an animal.
Name at least two instances (book, character, circumstance) of a character described by animals of the same genus and the same gender. (I know of three other instances, but only two different characters are involved; it is OK if you give two different instances for the same character)
I do mean "genus" in the correct scientific meaning: different species, not just in the same family but actually the same genus, scientific name X. Yn, with always the same X and different (or, possibly, same) Yn's - again OK if the two instances you propose mention the same species.
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Not much activity around here..

OK, a slightly longer one:
xxx paced back and forth like a frenzied YYY. "I'm being stampeded. I know I am. I can feel it. ZZZ is reaching out for me through WWW. And ZZZ's a man with no inhibitions about applying leverage. (...) Gods. Don't panic, XXX. What would VVV do in the same situation?" xxx stood still, facing the wall.

(....... )

"Never do yourself," muttered XXX, "what you can con an expert into doing for you.

xxx is a pronoun, and XXX does self-address as XXX, speaker and self-adressed. I had to remove a bit of the quote or it would have been too easy.

Book?
XXX?
ZZZ?
WWW? If you don't remember the name, any unambiguous characterisation will be OK.
VVV?


Bonus:
a) YYY is an animal.
Name at least two instances (book, character, circumstance) of a character described by animals of the same genus and the same gender. (I know of three other instances, but only two different characters are involved; it is OK if you give two different instances for the same character)
I do mean "genus" in the correct scientific meaning: different species, not just in the same family but actually the same genus, scientific name X. Yn, with always the same X and different (or, possibly, same) Yn's - again OK if the two instances you propose mention the same species.

b) what other characters are present during XXX's monologue? The toughts of one of them are described in a section of the quote I deleted, the longer "(.......)"
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Book? Ethan of Athos
XXX? Elli Quinn
ZZZ? Millisor
WWW? Teki
VVV? Admiral Naismith

Bonus: a: YYY is tigress but I've no idea where else it has come up. I'll happily let other people try the bonus.
b: Ethan and Terence Cee.

I've only read EoA once so no wonder I had difficulty finding the quote.
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