LMB Quote Game

Blackwing · Post by **Blackwing** » Sun Dec 06, 2009 11:04 am

"...He's a military genius, you know."

The book?
Who is talking?
About whom?

nperry · Post by **nperry** » Sun Dec 06, 2009 8:31 pm

"...He's a military genius, you know."

I think this was actually said twice. The ex-Dendarii/Oseran mercenary (I don't recall the name) working for Randall's Rangers talking to Cavillo about Miles said that in The Vor Game. Later, in Brothers in Arms, Miles (in his role as Lieutenant Lord Vorkosigan), said that to the Earth reporter Lise Valerie, referring to Admiral Naismith.

voralfred · Post by **voralfred** » Mon Dec 07, 2009 1:37 am

I had already thought of the first passage, the ex-Oseran/Dendarii turned Randall's Ranger, but the wording is different (no "you know" at the end). I also thought of a third one, also with a different wording. After you posted, I checked the Lise Valerie one. There it was!

Blackwing · Post by **Blackwing** » Mon Dec 07, 2009 10:02 am

nperry wrote:
"...He's a military genius, you know."
I think this was actually said twice. The ex-Dendarii/Oseran mercenary (I don't recall the name) working for Randall's Rangers talking to Cavillo about Miles said that in The Vor Game. Later, in Brothers in Arms, Miles (in his role as Lieutenant Lord Vorkosigan), said that to the Earth reporter Lise Valerie, referring to Admiral Naismith.

The second one is correct. Your turn!

nperry · Post by **nperry** » Mon Dec 07, 2009 12:46 pm

"Your reports, as usual, are masterpieces of understatement and misdirection."

Usual set of questions:
Who is the speaker?
Who is the speaker talking to?
What book is this from?

voralfred · Post by **voralfred** » Mon Dec 07, 2009 1:22 pm

That Miles is the person spoken to is really obvious.
The speaker might have been someone else than Illyan, but hardly.
I had several theories about the book, but my first choice was the "glueing pages" of the collection Borders of Infinity, and I did find it there. Of course, conceivably, it could be repeated elsewhere

including in _Memory_ if Illyan,

Spoiler: show

nperry · Post by **nperry** » Mon Dec 07, 2009 7:45 pm

Thought it being from that might prove trickier than it was. So be it. You're up Vorguy!

voralfred · Post by **voralfred** » Tue Dec 08, 2009 1:00 am

Two quotes from the same book (which one?)

"You used a XX1 technique on a YY1?"

"You used a YY2 technique on a XX2?"

The wordings of XX1 and XX2 are not exactly the same, but I am only asking what is XX, in any wording, so you can answer by memory.
Same applies to YY1,YY2, just answer what YY is.
One quote is uttered by a character. Which one?
The other one... it is more complicated. You have to explain exactly the complication.

SPetty · Post by **SPetty** » Tue Dec 08, 2009 7:56 am

voralfred wrote:Two quotes from the same book (which one?)
"You used a XX1 technique on a YY1?"

"You used a YY2 technique on a XX2?"
The wordings of XX1 and XX2 are not exactly the same, but I am only asking what is XX, in any wording, so you can answer by memory.
Same applies to YY1,YY2, just answer what YY is.
One quote is uttered by a character. Which one?
The other one... it is more complicated. You have to explain exactly the complication.

Well, I know where it's from. But I have to look up the complication.

SPetty · Post by **SPetty** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 8:13 pm

voralfred wrote:Two quotes from the same book (which one?)
"You used a XX1 technique on a YY1?"

"You used a YY2 technique on a XX2?"
The wordings of XX1 and XX2 are not exactly the same, but I am only asking what is XX, in any wording, so you can answer by memory.
Same applies to YY1,YY2, just answer what YY is.
One quote is uttered by a character. Which one?
The other one... it is more complicated. You have to explain exactly the complication.

Dar says both of them, in TSK: Legacy (obviously, since it's the only book he's in). The quote is: "You used a knife-making technique on a marriage cord?"

The second instance of the quote is Dar at the council meeting stating "They used a knife-making technique on wedding cords." In both circumstances, it's Dar speaking, but Dar is interrupting Dag's testimony about their wedding cords (which Fawn also interrupted).

I just re-read beguilement and legacy (checked out of the library since my books were packed up; they're now partially liberated).

voralfred · Post by **voralfred** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 10:33 pm

SPetty wrote:
voralfred wrote:Two quotes from the same book (which one?)
"You used a XX1 technique on a YY1?"

"You used a YY2 technique on a XX2?"
The wordings of XX1 and XX2 are not exactly the same, but I am only asking what is XX, in any wording, so you can answer by memory.
Same applies to YY1,YY2, just answer what YY is.
One quote is uttered by a character. Which one?
The other one... it is more complicated. You have to explain exactly the complication.
Dar says both of them, in TSK: Legacy (obviously, since it's the only book he's in). The quote is: "You used a knife-making technique on a marriage cord?"

The second instance of the quote is Dar at the council meeting stating "They used a knife-making technique on wedding cords." In both circumstances, it's Dar speaking, but Dar is interrupting Dag's testimony about their wedding cords (which Fawn also interrupted).

I just re-read beguilement and legacy (checked out of the library since my books were packed up; they're now partially liberated).

First answer is correct, Dar says it in Legacy.

Second is not. The subject is again "You", not "They", and wedding cord and knife are in opposite order (wording is slightly different). And as for who "says" it, well, it is complicated. You get 1/2

, but he second half is up for grabs and the next quote will go with it. I'll put up both halves when the quote is fully solved.

"You used a wedding cord technique on a sharing knife?"

SPetty · Post by **SPetty** » Thu Dec 10, 2009 8:27 am

Ok, found it. It's Dag, thinking what Dar would say when he's inside the malice ground involution spinning the ground the way Fawn would spin thread. (same book, obviously)

voralfred · Post by **voralfred** » Thu Dec 10, 2009 9:43 am

Correct!
So you get the entire

and the new quote is yours!

SPetty · Post by **SPetty** » Fri Dec 11, 2009 9:49 am

Well, the forum's going down for a day soon, but I'll get the quote up, in case anyone's checking before it goes down.

Was that a wistful note in Xxx's voice?

Book?
Who is Xxx?

SPetty · Post by **SPetty** » Tue Dec 15, 2009 11:48 am

Not sure that expanding the quote won't give it away, but I can try.

Was that a wistful note in Xxx's voice?
"yyy yyy Yyy, now," Zzz corrected with a sigh.

The two sets of lower case "yyy" indicate adjectives that describe the noun "Yyy," but are two different words (ie red springy algae, not green, green grass). Not sure if my example helps... ah well.

Book?
Who is Xxx?
Who is Zzz?

voralfred · Post by **voralfred** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 2:02 am

Tough one! It rings a vague reminiscence, but I still have no idea... Well, I would have to wait a few more hours, in any case....

voralfred · Post by **voralfred** » Sat Dec 19, 2009 5:59 pm

Maybe some more hints might be useful!

SPetty · Post by **SPetty** » Sat Dec 19, 2009 6:06 pm

If no one gets it this time, I'll switch to hints, as I think it's just the weird adjective chain that's keeping this from being ridiculous obvious.

Was that a wistful note in Xxx's voice?
"yyy yyy Yyy, now," Zzz corrected with a sigh."So had I. But she made the right choice for her."

The two sets of lower case "yyy" indicate adjectives that describe the noun "Yyy," but are two different words (ie red springy algae, not green, green grass). Not sure if my example helps... ah well.

Book?
Who is Xxx?
Who is Zzz?

SPetty · Post by **SPetty** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 9:30 am

Ok, first hint: It's in the first 1/4 of the book.

voralfred · Post by **voralfred** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 1:18 pm

That's a good hint, but.. which book?????

nperry · Post by **nperry** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 4:50 pm

It's guessing time! Ok, I'm assuming that Yyy is the "she" that "made the right choice for her" and guessing Elli Quinn, which'd make Zzz Miles.

If that's right, this'd be post-Memory, and likely pre-Winterfair Gifts. I don't really remember any talk with Vorthys about Quinn, and it's not something that I think came up with Ekaterin in the first quarter of Komarr, so I'm going to go with A Civil Campaign as the book.

Xxx...Again, not remembering any talk with either of the Vorthyses about Quinn, his parents weren't back from Sergyar yet, and I can't see why Ekaterin or her son would be "wistful" about Quinn. Hrm. Ivan?

Caroline Tredez · Post by **Caroline Tredez** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 5:09 pm

Naw, Pym :

Was that a wistful note in Pym's voice?

"Miss Admiral Quinn, now," Miles corrected with a sigh. "So had I. But she made the right choice for her."

From when Pym drives Miles to the Vorthyses to see Ekaterin at the very beginning of A Civil Campaign.

nperry · Post by **nperry** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 5:28 pm

Gah. Well, 2 out of 3. I was trying to figure out who would be wistful about Quinn in Miles' presence. I figured Ivan'd be the one.

Caroline Tredez · Post by **Caroline Tredez** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 7:55 pm

I admit that was my first thought upon seeing the quote, too. I checked the first meeting between Ekaterin and Ivan, t'wasn't there... It was when I tried to remember what was before the quote ("your lady mother...") that the bell rang loud enough in the back of my mind.

SPetty · Post by **SPetty** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 10:10 pm

Correct, obviously! While Caroline got it right on all counts, nperry also got a significant part correct. Would all parties be happy with half a sherlock to nperry, and half to Caroline, with Caroline getting the next quote? Otherwise, I'd give the full Sherlock to Caroline, since she found the exact quote, and not just making a (very) educated guess.

I figured the "she made the right choice for her" would make it pretty obvious that it was Elli, but the "lady mother" part certainly didn't make it less obvious. Still, I hope it was at least somewhat interesting, and in the first few pages of the book (though I figured hinting that it was in the first chapter might also make it too easy).

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