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Postby tollbaby » Fri Dec 07, 2007 8:15 am

coincidentally, I updated the ratings just before logging into the forum LOL It's fixed.
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Postby Zybahn » Wed Sep 03, 2008 2:00 pm

It's been down for some time now.
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Postby tollbaby » Wed Sep 03, 2008 2:40 pm

Just updated the ratings table. Let me know if you're still having trouble.
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Postby Zybahn » Sun Sep 07, 2008 9:49 am

The ratings seem to sneak away a lot lately. They seemed to have slipped away as soon as you rest them.
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Postby tollbaby » Mon Sep 08, 2008 8:20 am

Should be fixed again *sigh* Steven, is there a reason this is suddenly a problem again?
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Postby JohnAFair » Tue Nov 04, 2008 4:05 pm

tollbaby wrote:Should be fixed again *sigh* Steven, is there a reason this is suddenly a problem again?


Been here and mostly gone again over the last month...
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Postby tollbaby » Thu Nov 06, 2008 8:48 am

*sigh* STEVEN!!!!!! I'll go poke the ratings table again.
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Postby jeelau » Wed Mar 25, 2009 2:41 pm

Hey, don't know if anyone noticed, but the ratings seem to be down for all but a few of the books.
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Postby naes » Thu Mar 26, 2009 3:12 pm

I've been using IBL for a few years now and in my experience the rating system (in particular the pages that are supposed to list books by rating) seem very flaky. It often seems to have incomplete information or missing counts even for books I have just rated.

I don't think the Book rating list have been correct on even 1 day this month.

Is the cause of this problem understood?

I'd be quite happy to look over code or whatever in a help to sort this problem out.
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Postby spiphany » Fri Mar 27, 2009 11:34 am

Sorry, I can't do anything about reseting the ratings. I'll pass it on the Steven; he should be able to take care of it.

I'm not sure anyone knows exactly what the problem is. Last I heard, we thought it had something to do with new users rating books, but I don't know any more than that.
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Postby Zybahn » Sun Mar 29, 2009 12:37 pm

So new users should stop rating books.

(joke)

Sadly, ratings are down again.
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Postby tollbaby » Sun Mar 29, 2009 4:04 pm

It's actually the forum software. It should be fixed when we upgrade the site later this year.
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Postby rip8fan1 » Fri Aug 21, 2009 12:34 pm

Starting in September (hopefully, with a little bit of luck), I'll start posting some statistics, and for the last four months of 2009, I'll be trying to tweak these statistics so people get the most out of them. Then starting in 2010, with lots of luck and user feedback, I can post statistics every month that really help (or get some talking going, or get some ratings going)!!


For this endeavor, I'd like to ask somebody that does the coding behind the scenes for a small favor!!

Currently the URL would look like this:

http://www.iblist.com/list_by_rating.ph ... invotes=20

I want to be able to get books that are close to 20 votes and can do that by doing this to the url:

http://www.iblist.com/list_by_rating.ph ... &minvotes=18


But then I have a lot of books to go through which will take up too much time, so could I have the following to work:


http://www.iblist.com/list_by_rating.ph ... axvotes=19

Thus I would only get a list of books that have 18 or 19 votes!!


Thanks.


Edit,
It would be really grand if you could do it for Books, Authors, and Series!!!!
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Postby spiphany » Fri Aug 21, 2009 6:43 pm

:? I'm confused...what would we gain by pulling up only books that have exactly a certain number of votes?

The idea behind listing the rank with a certain minimum vote is that it rules out books that have only one or two votes, i.e., where we don't have enough votes to really have a representative sampling. After a point, it doesn't matter so much whether there are 50 votes, or 100. Or am I missing something? (Statistics have never been my strong point.)
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Postby rip8fan1 » Fri Aug 21, 2009 7:37 pm

spiphany wrote::? I'm confused...what would we gain by pulling up only books that have exactly a certain number of votes?

The idea behind listing the rank with a certain minimum vote is that it rules out books that have only one or two votes, i.e., where we don't have enough votes to really have a representative sampling. After a point, it doesn't matter so much whether there are 50 votes, or 100. Or am I missing something? (Statistics have never been my strong point.)


If I can highlight the books that are just one or two votes away from a certain plateau (20, 40, 80, 160), then it might 'lure' some voters to vote for those books in the next month or so.
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Eh?

Postby severance » Sun Aug 23, 2009 12:46 am

No, no, no - all you have to do is put an 18 at the end of the URL instead of 20 - then you'll see that Neverendig Story has 18 votes, as has The Sword of the Lictor, while The Great Book of Amber has 19. It's a five minute job to do it all manually, whereas it'll be a lot longer for the coders to write a script for something that isn't that important.
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Re: Eh?

Postby rip8fan1 » Sun Aug 23, 2009 7:11 am

severance wrote:No, no, no - all you have to do is put an 18 at the end of the URL instead of 20 - then you'll see that Neverendig Story has 18 votes, as has The Sword of the Lictor, while The Great Book of Amber has 19. It's a five minute job to do it all manually, whereas it'll be a lot longer for the coders to write a script for something that isn't that important.



I understand. I didn't think it would be very tough for the coders to ADD a new URL variable to three current scripts, where the URL variable would be missing most of the time. But if they need to make all new scripts, it isn't worth their time. Instead I'll spend the extra time every month doing it manually (if I feel up to it). I used to code websites all the time, and I added in literally thousands of url variables into my coding and it would normally take me about five minutes for each one, but I guess those good 'ol days are past.
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Postby spiphany » Sun Aug 23, 2009 1:41 pm

Um, it's not really about difficulty, the thing is, we have almost no one working on coding right now...so any programming that is done is usually of fairly high priority.

If you have programming experience and want to help out, please contact Steven: steven@iblist.com; we can use you.
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Postby tollbaby » Tue Sep 01, 2009 9:54 pm

Sorry folks, I don't even have time to lurk on this forum most of the time. Discussions are beginning for the site revamp, which, due to lack of funding, isn't planned until early 2010 if I'm not mistaken (if I am, I'm sure Steven will hit me later LOL).

I do know that the ratings system is one of the things that's slated for a major overhaul, as none of us (Steven included) are happy with how it's performed thus far.
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Re: Ratings

Postby avnika » Mon Feb 01, 2010 4:17 am

Can someone update the ratings? I cant see the votes for the books which I have already voted.
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Re: Ratings

Postby tollbaby » Wed Apr 28, 2010 11:50 am

*grumble* hopefully when the site gets its facelift/overhaul, this will stop happening.

Sorry gang, I don't even lurk on the forums much anymore, so I'm never aware when this is happening. I'll try to just update them once a week or so and hopefully no one will get stuck.
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Re: Ratings

Postby kanjisheik » Sun Jul 17, 2011 5:10 am

Ratings have been down for sometime now. :(
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