GAME: Word of the Day (WOTD)

[Algot Runeman]

fistic

Pronunciation: /ˈfɪstɪk/

adjective
humorous
relating to boxing.


Alexander Bolotnov

⍾➨➊➋---➒...

Cassius Clay (Muhammed Ali) was fabulous at fistic foolery. He floated like a butterfly and stung like a bee.

[E Pericoloso Sporgersi]

fistic
...
Cassius Clay (Muhammed Ali) was fabulous at fistic foolery. He floated like a butterfly and stung like a bee.

... all the while enjoying feisty fisticuffs.

[voralfred]

Wiener Schnitzel - Is there any connection to Wien (Vienna)?

Wiener vs. Frankfurter or Hamburger sandwiches?

Or, are these things Urban Legends?

Most definitely Wiener Schnitzel have to do with Vienna. My Viennese mother used to prepare veal "escalopes" (is there any other word in english?) by dipping them in flour, then beaten eggs, then bread crumbs before frying them.

[Algot Runeman]

moue

Pronunciation: /muː/

noun
a pouting expression used to convey annoyance or distaste.

Origin:
mid 19th century: French, earlier having the sense 'lip'


Ghislain Sillaume

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Pete pouted. His moue was more expressive than an orangutan's. Everyone for many meters modified their paths to circle widely around him. His dirty clothes and evident stink didn't help much.

[E Pericoloso Sporgersi]

moue

I wonder what Jayne Mansfield was most famous for, her sexy moues or her big ... erm ... never mind.
Sophia Loren's expression is more than eloquent.

Spoiler: show

[MidasKnight]

Wiener Schnitzel - Is there any connection to Wien (Vienna)?

Wiener vs. Frankfurter or Hamburger sandwiches?

Or, are these things Urban Legends?

Most definitely Wiener Schnitzel have to do with Vienna. My Viennese mother used to prepare veal "escalopes" (is there any other word in english?) by dipping them in flour, then beaten eggs, then bread crumbs before frying them.

Scallops

[E Pericoloso Sporgersi]

... Scallops

Not to forget the similar but more elaborate Cordon Bleu

[voralfred]

Scallops

Well, that's the first word that came to my mind, because of the similarity of sounds... till I remembered that it is the name of some seafood (coquille Saint Jacques, if I am not mistaken)... or does scallop mean both?

... Scallops

Not to forget the similar but more elaborate Cordon Bleu

If I am not mistaken, Cordon Bleu describes a specific recipe to prepare "escalopes".
What do you ask a butcher in english, to buy the sliced raw veal (or sliced raw chiken breast, or sliced raw turkey breast) needed to prepare schnitzel or Cordon Bleu? Scallops? Well, a butcher would hardly sell you seafood, I guess.... My butcher's knife being better than mine, when I buy those (usually turkey breast) I explicitly add: "Please slice it into "escalopes" ,thanks". What is the english term?

[MidasKnight]

Scallop is also a shape, I suppose. It basically just means the pieces that have been sliced. Scalloped potatoes are potatoes sliced, then baked. What you describe reminds me of merely slicing, perhaps thickly, a chunk of some kind of meat.

We generally don't call it scalloped, but it is. We would ask for 4 sliced of veal and give a thickness (1/4 inch or whatever, depending on the use).

I assume the seafood got its name from its shape and not vice versa, but I don't know for certain.

If something is described as being scalloped (like clothes or furniture) then it has a curvy pattern on its border, like repeating half circles. I don't know how to link pictures so I can't help you there.

Have I been sufficiently vague and confusing?

[Algot Runeman]

Scalloped Edges





MidasKnight's food description sounds right. In a scallop clam, the meat is little circles, slightly wider than thick. These are the muscles holding the shell closed. (They are also the smaller muscles in mussels, but that's another story)

Busy day at WotD. Very exciting.

MK, Posting an image:

• Find a good image with something like Flickr (preferably, select one which is labeled as OK to reuse).
• Copy the link location for the image (I right click the image to do that in my browser).
• Click the img tag button in your post and paste the link between the tags.

The image of the scallop shells as an example:

Code: Select all

[img]http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4132/4971987737_af2074509d.jpg[/img]

[MidasKnight]

So I need an account at a picture site?

[laurie]

No, Google Images works as well.

http://www.google.com/imghp?hl=en&tab=wi


Search whatever word/name/phrase you choose. On the images list page, click on the one you want. At the top of the next page, you'll see "See full size image". Click that, then copy the URL between the

[MidasKnight]

Bitchin!!!!

[Algot Runeman]

crozier

Pronunciation: /ˈkrəʊzɪə/

(also crosier)
noun
1a hooked staff carried by a bishop as a symbol of pastoral office.
2 the curled top of a young fern.

Origin:
Middle English (originally denoting the person who carried a processional cross in front of an archbishop): partly from Old French croisier 'cross-bearer', from crois 'cross', based on Latin crux; reinforced by Old French crocier 'bearer of a bishop's crook', from croce (see crosse)


Peter Roan


BlueRidgeKitties

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Bill bounced the bishop's crozier resting across his knees. He was nervous and didn't realize he was doing it.
Waiting to be part of the King's wedding ceremony was difficult to get his mind to accept. His heart was pounding.

[E Pericoloso Sporgersi]

crozier
noun
1a hooked staff carried by a bishop as a symbol of pastoral office.
...

Whew, that came just in time.

In the latest sleuthing thriller I was going to start reading next week, I would have totally misunderstood the sentence: 'The plainclothesman grabbed the crozier lying across the body on the floor and made to rake up the coal in the little chapel's antique stove'.

Remarkable, the new things one can learn in the WotD ...

[Algot Runeman]

Good timing all around, E.P.S.
Hope the book is good.

[laurie]

Origin:
Middle English (originally denoting the person who carried a processional cross in front of an archbishop): partly from Old French croisier 'cross-bearer', from crois 'cross', based on Latin crux; reinforced by Old French crocier 'bearer of a bishop's crook', from croce (see crosse)

So how did it get from all the "cross" references to what appears to be a glorified shepherd's crook? (I know the Good Shepherd metaphor applies, but the word crozier = cross, not crook.)

[Algot Runeman]

So how did it get from all the "cross" references to what appears to be a glorified shepherd's crook? (I know the Good Shepherd metaphor applies, but the word crozier = cross, not crook.)

Sounds like a perfect weekend opportunity for some archeology etymology digging. What better fun can be had on a sunny springlike weekend? Wait. It is still February. That's an excuse to dig into the library stacks instead of going outside(!).

Anybody know a church historian?

[Algot Runeman]

asseveration

Pronunciation: /əˌsɛvəˈreɪʃ(ə)n/

noun
[mass noun]
the solemn or emphatic declaration or statement of something: I fear that you offer only unsupported asseveration [count noun]: the dogmatic outlook marks many of his asseverations

Derivatives
asseverate
Pronunciation: /əˈsɛvəreɪt/
verb

Origin:
mid 16th century: from Latin asseveratio(n-), from the verb asseverare, from ad- 'to' + severus 'serious'


Justin Gaurav Murgai

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Tennis players make strenuous asseverations that their own shots are "in" while opponents are "out".

Will we be able to determine which "smily" to apply to our comments when laurie returns from the stacks on Monday, ready to asseverate on the complete history of crozier?

It would be cozier to contemplate a crozier if it were only "snowzier" outside. [wordbending, sorry]

[laurie]

Will we be able to determine which "smily" to apply to our comments when laurie returns from the stacks on Monday, ready to asseverate on the complete history of crozier?

You mean I'm supposed to do the digging?!?!?

It would be cozier to contemplate a crozier if it were only "snowzier" outside. [wordbending, sorry]

Dunno 'bout you, Algot, but we had lots of "snowzier" today!

[voralfred]

Origin:
Middle English (originally denoting the person who carried a processional cross in front of an archbishop): partly from Old French croisier 'cross-bearer', from crois 'cross', based on Latin crux; reinforced by Old French crocier 'bearer of a bishop's crook', from croce (see crosse)

So how did it get from all the "cross" references to what appears to be a glorified shepherd's crook? (I know the Good Shepherd metaphor applies, but the word crozier = cross, not crook.)

Well, I found an entirely different origin for the french translation of "crozier" which is "crosse" in french, and means both the ecclesiastical object and the top of the fern.
http://fr.wiktionary.org/wiki/crosse
Du germanique *krukja (« bâton à extrémité recourbée ») que l'on peut déduire de l'ancien haut allemand krucka, de l'ancien saxon krukka, du moyen néerlandais crucke est dont est issu Krücke en allemand, crook en anglais.
Il partage la même origine que croc, crochu, etc.
Even if you don't read french, it is clear here that the origin is not the latin "crux" but a germanic word which also gave the english "crook"

In addition it is also the name of a shepherd crook, the butt of a rifle, the grip of a handgun, all alluding roughly the same shape (in the latter two cases, not the shape of the "crosse" itself, but the shape the addition of the "crosse" gives to the entire object that would be straight without it), and a game implement, what you use to play either ice hockey or field hockey for instance, but curiously not "lacrosse" that uses a kind of net, not a "crosse". However if you look at the picture of variants of the implement traditionally used by several indian tribes to play their variant of "lacrosse", the one labeled (c) in the following link does look like a "crosse " (where the round part at the end is "filled" by a net, but the shape is indeed that of a "crosse")
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fichier:St ... ytribe.png
I found this link on the french wiki page for "Crosse", it is absent from the english page
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crosse_(sport)
Here it says the (c) was used by the Chippewa (Ojibwe in english).

Why doesn't my link to the origin of "crosse" in french work?
The link does work, when used alone, but I can't use it "around" the quote. Can someone fix that?

[E Pericoloso Sporgersi]

The very first bishops used much simpler attire. A very modest robe, a demure hat and a plain crozier without any adornment and nothing inside its curved end.

To receive the congregation's pewage without having to laboriously pass between the pews and avoid all those feet, the bishops held their croziers horizontally, with their hats stuck upside-down in the curve of the crook. While collecting they could stay in the aisle.

Spoiler: show

They slid the crozier between the pews, hintfully pausing the hat before each person, up to the middle. Having done one side, they switched to the other side of the block of pews. That's why pews are never wider than double the length of a crozier.

After a while the churchgoers started calling the bishops crooks, in the rather pejorative and rude meaning. When the bishops found out, they thought the whole thing beneath their dignity and from then on they relegated the practice to the sextons.

Now, the sacristans do pass between the pews with little wicker baskets, seizing the opportunity to 'inadvertently' kick too parsimonious parishioners.

[Algot Runeman]

gnash

Pronunciation: /naʃ/

verb
[with object]
grind (one’s teeth) together as a sign of anger (often used hyperbolically): no doubt he is gnashing his teeth in rage
[no object] (of teeth) strike together; grind: the dog’s jaws were primed to gnash

Origin:
late Middle English: perhaps related to Old Norse gnastan 'a gnashing'


Nikki "Y2K"

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It is a little known fact that gnashing of teeth by our ancestors wore away their fangs. If it hadn't been so, we'd all still be vampires and the Twilight series would have a different twist to it.

[Algot Runeman]

Dunno 'bout you, Algot, but we had lots of "snowzier" today!

In eastern Massachusetts, this year's winter may go down as the least snowy on record. We have had unmeasurable flurries as the peak storm of February with no storms in sight.

I photographed a common groundsel completing its flowering cycle at the beginning of Feb. in my neighborhood.



Sigh. (Snow lover. Lover of shoveling. Crazy loon.)

[voralfred]

@ MK

Sorry I forgot to thank you for your post both informative and confusing


@ laurie and others discussing the origin of "crozier"
I am very surprised that in english you use a different word for a bishop's crozier vs a shepherd's crook. In french it is the same word, "crosse", and I have been convinced as far as I can remember that the very reason a bishop had a "crosse" was because he was the shepherd of his flock.

@ EPS

I really do not believe that early bishops had hats with the shape ("feutre mou" = felt hat) on the image you provided