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Algot Runeman wrote:Grades are horrible. They don't actually provide benefit. They are simply judgemental.
I partially disagree and wrote a decent response but the website puked on me and I lost it.

Suffice it to say that my son's grades and his mastery level of those subjects do not always coincide and it can go either way (better grade than his mastery would indicate OR worse grade than his mastery would indicate).

Certain subjects by nature cannot have subjective grades (math).

As humans, we need a way to measure our progress and competence. How else besides grades?
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Algot Runeman wrote:burl
I didn't realise you have a soft spot for burlesque?
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E.P.S., If not a soft spot for burlesque, certainly an appreciation for Burl Ives.

MidasKnight, it isn't grades which encourage students. They are markers for a level of mastery occasionally, but they also are a way to put students into a rough ranking...winners and (ahem) losers. For some, the C, D or F is encouragement to try harder. For vastly more, it is a harsh judgement of the individual as often as it is a judgement of the work. A students may be considered worthy of getting into Harvard...of course, only if they are from a "good" school.

As to math, consider this question: What is the sum of 10 + 1?
It is a trick question, of course. I'm expecting you to think in terms of our common number base so you will say 11 and mean eleven. In fact I'm being nasty and using the binary base-2 where the same answer 11 is three. A lot of math boils down to the use of canned recipes for getting the right answer. Those who memorize the recipe do well. Those who understand a math concept, but struggle with the recipe from time to time may not do so well. In my youth, a measure of math proficiency was being able to rapidly go through the multiplication table, the faster the better, then to do similar "calculation" randomly. Was speed a measure of calculation skill or merely a good memory for 7 x 8 or 12 x 5? Were the slower to respond actually less math fluent? I remember feeling very inadequate for a long time. Even before the digital calculator (much less spreadsheets) made such skill of dubious value, I just never saw the point.

Math is assumed to have "right" answers and getting 7 of 10 correct on a quiz is a passing grade of C- or D in most schools. Even with that, compare a baseball player whose batting average is 700. That's the same level of performance, but we would effusively praise such a player while probably shaking our heads at the performance of the student with the 70 (after he/she turned and walked out the classroom door).

You might argue that comparing a C- or D with a 700 average hitter is comparing apples to oranges. Well, maybe so, but to go back to math one last time. 6 apples plus 6 oranges still equals 12, no matter that the units are now called "fruit."

Now, don't "burl" over from too much heated argument... :slap:
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Algot Runeman wrote:One hopes that the schmaltz was subsequently replaced with sizzle and that you avoided taking the simple route of never writing again.
Never fear -- I've kept at it, though I've veered toward poetry most of the time. In college I had a truly wonderful creative writing teacher, a poet named Tess Gallagher.

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Algot Runeman wrote:E.P.S., If not a soft spot for burlesque, certainly an appreciation for Burl Ives.

MidasKnight, it isn't grades which encourage students. They are markers for a level of mastery occasionally, but they also are a way to put students into a rough ranking...winners and (ahem) losers. For some, the C, D or F is encouragement to try harder. For vastly more, it is a harsh judgement of the individual as often as it is a judgement of the work. A students may be considered worthy of getting into Harvard...of course, only if they are from a "good" school.

As to math, consider this question: What is the sum of 10 + 1?
It is a trick question, of course. I'm expecting you to think in terms of our common number base so you will say 11 and mean eleven. In fact I'm being nasty and using the binary base-2 where the same answer 11 is three. A lot of math boils down to the use of canned recipes for getting the right answer. Those who memorize the recipe do well. Those who understand a math concept, but struggle with the recipe from time to time may not do so well. In my youth, a measure of math proficiency was being able to rapidly go through the multiplication table, the faster the better, then to do similar "calculation" randomly. Was speed a measure of calculation skill or merely a good memory for 7 x 8 or 12 x 5? Were the slower to respond actually less math fluent? I remember feeling very inadequate for a long time. Even before the digital calculator (much less spreadsheets) made such skill of dubious value, I just never saw the point.

Math is assumed to have "right" answers and getting 7 of 10 correct on a quiz is a passing grade of C- or D in most schools. Even with that, compare a baseball player whose batting average is 700. That's the same level of performance, but we would effusively praise such a player while probably shaking our heads at the performance of the student with the 70 (after he/she turned and walked out the classroom door).

You might argue that comparing a C- or D with a 700 average hitter is comparing apples to oranges. Well, maybe so, but to go back to math one last time. 6 apples plus 6 oranges still equals 12, no matter that the units are now called "fruit."

Now, don't "burl" over from too much heated argument... :slap:
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gynocentric

Pronunciation: /ˌgʌɪnə(ʊ)ˈsɛntrɪk, ˌdʒʌɪ-/

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centred on or concerned exclusively with women; taking a female (or specifically a feminist) point of view.

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Though Amazon women are from an older gynocentric culture, Wonder Woman was a marvellous exemplar of the ideal heroine.
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MidasKnight wrote:How to measure progress then?
Boy, MidasKnight, I wish I had the easy answer to that question for student learning at every level.

I had great luck using Project Based Learning (PBL). I watched students in my class do a series of escalating tasks related to the activity that we had planned next in the curriculum. Then I assigned a project which could be completed at a whole bunch of levels of subjective quality. I encouraged each student to be creative and to exercise that creativity with the skills of the activity.

I still gave the students grades, which were required by the school, but I attempted to judge the students against themselves, recognizing jumps of improvement for the skills of the assignment. Therefore, a satisfactory grade for two students didn't automatically put those two student projects on the same level. No two projects were exactly alike. That was part of the method's design. Each student could appreciate the work of another in the class without saying "He can't get the same grade as me. His project looks different from mine. He didn't get the right answer."

At the same time, a student whose work was substandard, based on individual prior skill level, is pretty easy to see as coasting or even wasting time. I'd attempt to find out what was going on. When I could work around the current issue, the student's effort improved. I really had only a few students who just blew off the assignments. Those students did, indeed, get unsatisfactory grades.

In a classroom, PBL takes a lot of prep work for student activity materials and flexible time structure, but since classroom time is focused on project work, a teacher's time is busy, but focused on answering specific questions for individuals instead of giving a bunch of "instruction" to the whole class. I found that whole class "instruction" left some kids too far behind because it didn't meet their needs or boring to those who were ready for the next step.

As in woodwork, student learning strategies are a knotty or burl-interrupted grain. Making useful "finished" products isn't easy. </end of my most recent wide detour from the WotD>
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shive

Pronunciation: /ʃʌɪv/

noun
a broad bung hammered into a hole in the top of a cask when the cask has been filled.

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Middle English: related to sheave2. The original sense was 'slice (of bread'), later 'piece of split wood'; the current sense dates from the mid 19th century

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The fact is, not everyone likes alcoholic beverages so a shive doesn't come up in conversation.
Even the kids around here on weekends just think of their parties as "keggers", leaving off the further linguistic arcana.
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Algot Runeman wrote:shive
Shive ... bung ... plug ... cork ... methinks stopper is easier to remember.
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Macarena

Pronunciation: /ˌmakəˈraɪnə/

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a dance performed with exaggerated hip motion to a fast Latin rhythm.

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apparently from the title of a song by the Spanish duo Los del Rio (1993)

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bupkis

Pronunciation: /ˈbʌpkɪs/

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[mass noun] US informal
nothing at all: you know bupkis about fundraising

Origin:
from Yiddish

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I have bupkis to say about this word.

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Algot Runeman wrote:bupkis
Moneypenny: "Good morning, James."

Bond: "It always is with you in it, Jane."

Moneypenny: "Stop it, James, you'll make me blush. James, are you familiar with Chipps-R-Us Industries?"

Bond: "Sorry, darling. I know bupkis about it."

Moneypenny: "Don't worry about it. I made you come early so you can read this file before you go in, but don't tell M, he doesn't know."

Bond: "You're a lifesaver, darling."

Moneypenny: "Yeah, yeah, James, buttkiss me. But will you ever hold on to me? Oh nooo ... poor, wasted me."

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E.P.S.

Have you read the recent 007 novel by Jeffery Deaver? Reactions? (anybody else, too)

M. is wise!

Say, Do you spell his name with or without the period? I know bupkis about speeling. (Sorry, Laurie) :smash:

[Hey, just noticed after submitting...coincidence? Post 1007 mentions 007!]
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Does anybody else remember the TV show Hogan's Heroes?

I don't think I remember Sargent Schultz ever saying, "I know bupkis, bupkis!"
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Algot Runeman wrote:E.P.S.
Have you read the recent 007 novel by Jeffery Deaver? Reactions? (anybody else, too)...[/color]]
'Fraid not. Long ago (20 years or so) I read one single Bond novel - not moviefied. I only remember that I read it, that's all.

On the other hand, I saw all the movies three times, each of them once in the cinema, once on rental VHS and now I have the full set on DVD, including the parody and the remake.
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Algot Runeman wrote:Does anybody else remember the TV show Hogan's Heroes?

I don't think I remember Sargent Schultz ever saying, "I know bupkis, bupkis!"

Somehow I doubt that even comic Nazis would be using Yiddish words.

(I loved that show - LeBeau was my favorite!)
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elide

Pronunciation: /ɪˈlʌɪd/

verb
[with object]
1 omit (a sound or syllable) when speaking: (as adjective elided) elided consonants

2 join together; merge: whole periods of time are elided into a few seconds of screen time

Origin:
mid 16th century (in the sense 'annul', chiefly as a Scots legal term): from Latin elidere 'crush out', from e- (variant of ex-) 'out' + laedere 'to dash'

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Algot Runeman wrote:elide
My grandma never elided, nor eluded.
She always bared everything she had. To grandpa, that is.
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hosel

Pronunciation: /ˈhəʊz(ə)l/

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the socket of a golf club head which the shaft fits into.

Origin:
late 16th century: diminutive of hose, in the dialect sense 'sheathing'

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"Jose, the hosel on my clubs don't look alright. I would be really annoyed if the club heads flew off the handle like last time."
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In anticipation of both ethnic and anti-pun anger, I'll use hosel as an excuse for an old joke.
There once was a fireman from El Paso who was so proud of being on the job that he named his two sons José and Hoseb.
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I give up!
Except that "Hoseb" evokes "hose" that a fireman uses, where is the pun? Why Jose? Is "Hoseb" a first name? Why El paso? Also, the rythme is not quite that of a limerick, is it?
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voralfred wrote:I give up!
Except that "Hoseb" evokes "hose" that a fireman uses, where is the pun? Why Jose? Is "Hoseb" a first name? Why El paso? Also, the rythme is not quite that of a limerick, is it?
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Not a limerick -- just a sentence.

El Paso is a Texas city on the border with Mexico. Many (most?) of the inhabitants are of Mexican descent and Spanish-speaking.

Firefighters label their trucks with numbers and their hoses and ladders with letters.

In Spanish, José is pronounced Hose-A.

Ergo, the kids are Hose-A and Hose-B.
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Laurie,

There's never been a question, you can spell. You can even spell pun. Ergo, you are a goddess!
Humans, rejoice. You have been granted a great boon.

[Thanks for the marvellous translation. --A]

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Algot put ergot in the stew pot.
He wasn't aware one should do not.
The family sat, but never did rise.
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panjandrum

Pronunciation: /panˈdʒandrəm/

noun
a person who has or claims to have a great deal of authority or influence: the greatest scientific panjandrum of the 19th century [as title]: the Great Panjandrum of this exercise is a management consultant

Origin:
late 19th century: from Grand Panjandrum, an invented phrase in a nonsense verse (1755) by S. Foote

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